Bedini Simplified School Girl Motor Discussion

Those who come to this page not having heard of John Bedini and "Radiant Energy" should first check out the Bedini website linked on the right. They should check out Tom Bearden's website also linked on the right. You should also consider getting at least the first DVD in the "Energy From The Vacuum Series" which will almost certainly explain the concepts better than us !

So what's the point of this blog then , with the clumsily shot video and awkward attempts at explanations of cutting edge technology ? The point is that it shows pretty ordinary but very interested people trying to bring this stuff down from the "top of the mountain". "If these fellas can do it", might be the sentiment, "so can we !". We are following in the footsteps of others and hopefully the path will in time become easier to travel along. We are just doing "our bit".

Tom Hackett and myself are discussing the so called Bedini "Simplified School Girl motor" that Tom built. John Bedini came up with the name in order, we suppose to make this technology more simple..."if a schoolgirl can put this motor together, then so can I..." As the weeks have gone by it's become clearer to me what we are attempting to do. The first blog entries are awkward and probably mystifying to the casual blog visitor. What I believe we are trying to do is to get the "radiant" energy from vacuum. It is our belief that this is the Heaviside component predicted by Maxwell's laws of electromagnetism but neglected by modern electrical engineers.

My current (no pun following) understanding is that we are trying to create an electrical dipole as a sort of "gate" to the convergent/radiant/negative energy. Our aim is to keep this gate open long enough to get this energy but not too long to allow a current to flow. We are trying to short circuit (and I don't know whether I'm using the term literally or as a figure of speech) the closed loop circuit that we use in every day lives but Tom Bearden and John Bedini criticise. In the modern world electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels (probably not from fossils - that's a story for another day :-) ) that turn a dynamo creating dipole allowing a current to flow destroying the dipole which in turn necessitates more "fossil" fuel burning...According to Tom Bearden modern electrical engineering is wrong in saying that you get a conversion of mechanical work into electrical work in the traditional closed loop hydroelectric dam (for example) circuit. The energy Bearden asserts, citing many other, comes from vacuum. It is the dipole itself that allows this channeling of energy, the Heaviside component to enter the circuit. Establishment pundits might say "what about the contravention of first law of dynamics". Tom Bearden's retort is simple: " A windmill says to to heck with the first law of dynamics !". We claim not to create energy but access what's abundantly there. The idea with the Bedini circuit is to not use a traditional closed loop circuit but to continually tap into the continuous series of dipoles created by the Bedini motor/circuitry.

The video is in four parts. The last part is a little jerky but is important because it show the discrepancy between output from the SSG on a meter reading and on an oscilloscope .

Part One



Part Two



Part Three



Part Four

Blog Name Change

The blog has been changed from "Energy From The Vacuum For Idiots" to "Overunity For Those Who Travel In The Slow Lane"

Some More Notes After Watching Bedini DVDs....

Been watching John Bedini explaining things to the camera crew and others again. Learnt another couple of things of interest:

You can't just flip the charging batteries and primary batteries around ! Apparently radiant/negative energy charged batteries have different properties. Once again it's reiterated that as batteries are charged with the Bedini circuitry that COOL down, drawing IN radiant/negative energy . Conventional charging would mean the battery HEATED up. HOWEVER you can still use the Bedini charged batteries to do the usual lighting of bulbs and driving of garden equipment etc...
John Bedini mentions that in order to flip the batteries you would have to use an invertor....

Touching upon the overunity aspects. Bedini mentions, and citing Bearden, that it is difficult to measure the overunity features because of negative energies non conventional properties. HOWEVER the charged batteries do apparently RUN LONGER with negative energy and the charging process can remove the sulphation that conventional charging won't ! So whilst I very much look forward to seeing how the oscilloscope views the various Bedini circuits we have, in terms of SHOWING something different from normal is happening we will need to demonstrate to ourselves that the negative energy charged batteries run longer in their usual applications. (Bedini mentions that a golf cart ran for 2 1/2 hours instead of the usual 1 hour )

One more thing. We see the Bedini-Cole motor, presumably a predecessor of the later Bedini monopole motors. This has a closed loop circuit. John Bedini show that the BACK EMF necessarily won't be enough to charge the secondary/charging battery. (BACK EMF apparently is what appears on the US patents with respect to the Bedini stuff, BUT BACK EMF apparently the only wording accepted by the patent people.) JB converts to the known monpole open loop circuit in front of camera and show the radiant spike charging the secondary battery. He says that "NATURE ONLY LIKES THE OPEN LOOP SYSTEM".

So a summary of what I've learnt: You can't easily flip the batteries, easily test over unity or try and be clever and configure a closed loop circuit, BUT you can observe the non conventional COOLING as the batteries are charged and observe that in their everyday operations, the negative energy charged batteries RUN LONGER and SULPHATION IS REMOVED !

(Just as an interesting aside, and some sense of the circuitry pulling energy in from the vacuum, Bedini mentions how when you have a full moon, the motors work at different speeds...I found that an interesting observation..)

Theory And Knowledge Working Together....

Just a few thinking out aloud thoughts....Just watched several of the "Energy From The Vacuum" DVDs again and jotted down a couple of notes a little later, disjointed perhaps, but striking a chord with me.... After struggling with the experimental side for a little bit, I realised I'd forgotten the very very small bit of theory that goes with the concept of "Energy From The Vacuum". ( Must mention that earlier in the year I read Tom Bearden's book of the same name - phew, he's clever - but I hardly understood a thing -well some things - out of shear bloody mindedness I read the whole thing but for large parts it was like trying to understand sociology by reading a telephone directory. In any case one of my own mini goals is to read Bearden's book again in the near future. I set myself the task of twenty pages a day...

Some disjointed jottings based on my DVD (1,2 and 5) watching :

In an overunity/Bedini circuit the idea is to set up a potential and "get" the radiant energy ("Heaviside component" (?)) before the current flows. The current in a conventional circuit apparently follows Lorenz or (is it Lorentz) , "symmetrical regauging". This is what destroys the dipole and is the basis of electrical engineering since the the late 19th century - the so called closed loop circuit. (It occurs to me in a very rare thought of imaginative thinking on my part, that the word "circuit" necessarily implies "closed loop" - think" racing circuit" etc)

Evidently Heaviside following on from Maxwell realised that the "divergent" energy, viz that goes through the wire is only one trillionth (Bearden) that of the overall energy associated with the electromagnetic dipole. The non diverged component, viz the "Heaviside component" is the "Radiant" or "Negative" energy that Bedini speaks of with respect to his motors, and that which he captures with his non conventional circuitry.

Tom Bearden explained that in a conventional circuit the impedance causes component to heat up, this "divergent energy" is trying to get back to the environment....whereas the "radiant"/"negative"/"convergent"/"curled" (?) energy is trying to get into the circuit....THIS explains the cooling rather that the heating with a conventional circuit...and gives some sort of empirical evidence that something out of the ordinary is happening. GREATER impedance apparently allows more negative energy to enter the system. He goes on to say because of its "convergent" nature the charging of batteries with the Bedini motor could be explosive (!) if the charging batteries were charged with the power output from a conventional arrangement.

Below is a sketch a diagram described on DVD Part 5. The DC source on the left is potentialised by the switch on the left closing. BEFORE current flows ! and this would have to be very quick ! , energy is captured by some sort of coil arrangement in the centre. The coil in the centre is made of 98 % iron and 2 % aluminum - apparently very very expensive to make/get. This alloy delays the current by 1 ms. The speaker referred to it as "relaxation time". After the switch is closed the "coil arrangement" discharges to the load on the right.

This whole operation occurs very quickly. Below the switches are a capacitor and switching circuitry. This was described as a "DC to DC Converter" . I have no idea if this is just a theoretical concept at present or is waiting to be made. I would like to relate this to the Bedini circuitry if someone would be kind enough to point out the differences or/and commonalities




















Viewing the videos again, I was again struck by Tom Bearden's kindness to the Establishment in terms of saying that various government bodies were reluctant to explore new technology, to bridge the gap as he says between what is known in Theoretical Physics Dept and can therefore be taken across the campus to the Electrical Engineering Dept. He put this down to the inertia of the older scientists. In Fact career "scientists" - possibly an oxymoron - can only work as Tom says on what projects money is given to them for. I suspect he would be less kind to the Establishment off camera, because there is no doubt in my mind that Western government may well be able to keep the lid on this stuff to preserve the existing power structure, BUT can they control the Chinese or Russian researchers ?

Drawing Of Components Laid Out For Fan Kit

(Click on image to enlarge)

This is for the fella who asked for more information on the youtube video. This is how Tom laid out the components on the matrix board. Of course the circuit diagram to accompany this is with the kit. (Personally as someone who is very new to electronics and the hands on experience, I would find this useful myself...) The matrix board as drawn is of course seen in the youtube videos

You mentioned that the fan motor wasn't working for yourself. Well it's either this bit , ie the circuitry part or the disassembly and reassembly of the fan itself with the correct wiring.....I sit and watched while Tom soldered the matrix/circuit board part within half an hour or so. The fan disassembly and reassembly was the hard bit. Tom had to make a little gadget for replacing the circlip on the fan motor itself. Very fiddly it was too !!

In a few weeks time we'll take apart the fan motor again and try and indicate the how Tom did the wiring. I hadn't appreciated when I bought the fan that it was a proprietary product whose inner workings had to be rejigged, ie the circuit board part of it disconnected - BUT still used as a mechanical spacer...more on this in few weeks, including the little gadget Tom Hackett made for the circlip fiddling around on the fan motor...

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Next week Tom is taking order of an oscilloscope. We need this to measure stuff for the SSG motor and hopefully we will then have the credentials to join the Bedini SSG research group ......

As per usual, constructive comments are very welcome....

Signed Up To The Energetic Forum...

Signed Up To The Energetic Forum... http://www.energeticforum.com/ and hopefully will get some constructive criticism of what we're doing and to what extent we are perceiving this stuff correctly.

Posted this in new members area:
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Trying To Popularise The Bedini/Bearden stuff in England
Hello folks,
Having been impressed by Tom Bearden and John Bedini and there will be of course many others of note, a friend of mine (99 % of work) and myself have built the Bedini fan motor as well as an SSG and another on the drawing board as well...

For my own part I know little "hand on stuff".My mate is an engineer and we both are struggling to understand the over unity stuff and need to try to get to grips with it more.

Here is my blogsite:
Energy From The Vacuum For Idiots

and I would welcome any constructive criticism please :-) either on the blog or on here...

There is some video I've put on you-tube on the blog. No doubt many of the advanced people will be a little amused at our efforts but we are determined to get to grips with this stuff. We are at the point where we need to be able to make meaningful measurements and indeed understand what should be going on....

Simon"

More Hands On Video Plus Discussion Of How It All Works...

The last video was marred by me filming with the nightscope on....but as my understanding of this "mainstream " technology has increased so has my understanding of the Bedini circuitry :-)

A couple of friends who've received this blog link have asked "So, what's it all about ?" or "So what ?". The best answer up to today that I've been able to give has been something along the lines of an analogy with a windmill that receives mechanical energy from outside itself for FREE. We are trying to do the same with electromagnetic energy. After we filmed yesterday Tom and myself discussed our understanding of what was going on.


On the video last week Tom said that the Bedini fan motor kit was measuring 300 V. In fact that was on the DC setting. On the AC setting we were getting 600 V. THIS WEEK we're in part looking at the "Simplified School Girl circuitry" - essentially a smaller version than the propriety fan motor kit we looked at last week and something Tom Hackett built a few months ago. Tom calls it the "Bedini MK 1". He built it in an afternoon after I'd been collecting bits and asking advice off people for months ! Instead of a bicycle wheel Tom used a caster with four magnets attached.

Part One - Discussing The SSG MK 1



Part Two - .....And Looking Ahead To Tom's MK 3 !



.....Anyway, Tom makes the point that NO MATTER HOW FAST BY HAND YOU TURN THE FAN MOTOR BY HAND YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING LIKE THE SAME VOLTAGE AS YOU DO WHEN IT'S CONNECTED TO THE PRIMARY SOURCE. Tom speculated that it was NECESSARY FOR A CHARGED COIL (COURTESY OF THE PRIMARY BATTERY) AND ALSO THE "AMPLIFICATION" OF THE INDUCED EMF (COURTESY OF THE PRIMARY BATTERY) WHICH A ROTATION BY HAND ALONE COULDN'T PRODUCE....


































Tom thought what was going on was that electron flow in the general environment were somehow being captured by the switching. As the coil was being charged by the 12 V primary source - and so causing the wheel to spin, the passing of the magnet was inducing an EMF which was "amplified" by the circuitry from the primary source. The primary source was thus causing the coil to be charged and also providing the "amplification" for what John Bedini calls "Radiant Energy" and what Tom Bearden calls "Energy From The Vacuum". (I strongly suspect my explanation is clumsy at best and possibly wrong in part. To the novice I say, please appreciate that we are struggling just like you, and to the initiated please enlighten us all by your input.)

Here I think the "Windmill" analogy breaks down because I think we are saying in this circuitry is, it would be like a windmill engineered to move the wind faster !

So, what I'll get Tom to clarify what I've tried to relate here and get the opinion of those who have travelled further down the road that we're on, and hope they are not to harsh with their comments :-).....as we are trying hard to understand this stuff :-)